Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/02/2002 08:04 AM House STA

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HB 487-FIREWORKS REGULATION                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  announced that the  final order of  business would                                                               
be  HOUSE  BILL NO.  487,  "An  Act  relating to  fireworks;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0165                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SHARRON  O'DELL,  Staff  to Representative  Vic  Kohring,  Alaska                                                               
State   Legislature,   presented   Version   L   on   behalf   of                                                               
Representative  Kohring, sponsor, for the committee to adopt.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0265                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  asked if  there  was  any objection  to  adopting                                                               
CSHB 487, version  22-LS1385\L, Bannister,  3/14/02, as  the work                                                               
draft.  There being no objection, Version L was adopted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0297                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  O'DELL  explained  that  consumer   fireworks  are  a  great                                                               
American  tradition, and  that  the use  of  fireworks has  grown                                                               
exponentially  with the  increased availability  in the  last few                                                               
years.   However, state statutes  that were written in  1969 have                                                               
not kept pace with the changes  in the fireworks industry.  A few                                                               
local Alaskan  jurisdictions and the federal  regulators have had                                                               
success in developing  effective and fair laws.   The function of                                                               
the state fire  marshal under the Department of  Public Safety is                                                               
to  foster, promote,  regulate,  and develop  ways  and means  of                                                               
protecting the public against fire  for persons and property, and                                                               
to encourage  the adoption of  fire prevention measures  by means                                                               
of  education.   In response  to the  concerns of  increased fire                                                               
risk  from  the devastating  damage  caused  by the  spruce  bark                                                               
beetle, the state fire marshal  has requested additional tools to                                                               
protect  the lives  and  property  of citizens  of  the state  of                                                               
Alaska.    The state  fire  marshal  and representatives  of  the                                                               
fireworks industry  have worked  closely to  draft HB  487, which                                                               
she  believes will  provide  the state  fire  marshal with  those                                                               
tools.   The modifications  in HB 487 are  based on  the positive                                                               
results in  North Pole, Houston,  and other  jurisdictions inside                                                               
and outside the state of Alaska, she explained.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0420                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. O'DELL  reviewed HB  487 section by  section.   She explained                                                               
that HB  487 is a  proactive measure working with  the department                                                               
and  within the  industry that  will make  things better  for the                                                               
general public  by giving the  state fire marshal  the regulating                                                               
and  enforcing authority  he needs  by statute.   In  addition to                                                               
banning  bottle rockets,  it  allows the  state  fire marshal  to                                                               
restrict or  limit the  sale and use  of skyrockets  and missiles                                                               
between April 1 and September 30.   Bottle rockets are very cheap                                                               
and popular  fireworks if  used properly,  she explained.   There                                                               
have been  probably tens of millions  sold in Alaska in  the last                                                               
ten  years; however,  they are  the most  single source  of noise                                                               
complaints  and most  likely to  be  misused.   If misused,  they                                                               
potentially can cause injuries and pose a fire risk.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  O'DELL explained  the danger  of the  self-propelled rockets                                                               
and  missiles.   If  misused,  they can  fly  off course  several                                                               
hundred feet  and start a  fire that  could grow into  a wildfire                                                               
before it's even detected.  Even  though the risk of fire created                                                               
by  fireworks  is  very  small,  80-90 percent  of  the  risk  of                                                               
potential fire is  caused by the misuse of  rockets and missiles.                                                               
It is true people are going to  have to give up something by this                                                               
bill, she  said, but  it is  a good  compromise and  will benefit                                                               
everybody.   It's a  proactive, prophylactic  measure that  is in                                                               
response  to spruce  bark beetle  devastation.   Bottle  rockets,                                                               
skyrockets,  and  missiles  combine   to  represent  about  20-30                                                               
percent of  the current annual  sales of fireworks  vendors; they                                                               
are the  most popular  [fireworks] sold.   However, based  on the                                                               
experience of  North Pole,  she noted,  those vendors  have found                                                               
that  people will  find  other  items to  buy;  the people  there                                                               
understand the restrictions that have been placed there.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  O'DELL noted  that  HB  487 will  ensure  that all  vendors,                                                               
including  those  in the  unincorporated  areas  of Alaska,  will                                                               
operate  by  the same  rules.    It  will ensure  that  fireworks                                                               
regulations  are  up-to-date through  the  work  of the  advisory                                                               
committee.  It gives the state  fire marshal the ability to carry                                                               
out the safety  and education function of his  office through the                                                               
fire safety  program that  is created.   It  will ensure  a safer                                                               
celebration  by  those  people   who  choose  to  celebrate  with                                                               
consumer fireworks.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0852                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
GARY  POWELL,  Director   State/Fire  Marshall,  Central  Office,                                                               
Division  of  Fire  Prevention,   Department  of  Public  Safety,                                                               
testified  via teleconference.   He  stated that  he worked  with                                                               
Representative Kohring's  office and Mr. Hall  [fireworks vendor]                                                               
on  HB 487  and that  it is  a  good effort.   It  cleans up  the                                                               
language  that  has  been  redefined  over  the  years  by  other                                                               
standards.   It allows a  committee to  sit down and  involve all                                                               
the  user  groups,  rather  than just  having  his  office  adopt                                                               
regulations or regulate it on its own.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. POWELL reiterated that the  bottle rockets and aerial rockets                                                               
are the biggest concern out of  the fireworks industry.  There is                                                               
a  small  amount  of  property  loss,  a  lot  of  nuisance-noise                                                               
complaints, and small injuries caused  by the bottle rockets.  He                                                               
pointed  out the  other aerial  rockets are  certainly cause  for                                                               
concern because  they can  travel several  hundred feet,  land in                                                               
undetected areas,  smolder all night,  and possibly start  a fire                                                               
several hours after  the rocket was shot off.   Overall, he said,                                                               
HB 487  is a positive step,  even though it might  make more work                                                               
for  his office,  but it's  worth the  effort if  the bill  comes                                                               
together as it is now.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0997                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE  asked Mr.  Powell  for  some statistics  on                                                               
injuries sustained  by people using  bottle rockets or  the other                                                               
type of rockets, and how many fires have been set by them.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. POWELL  replied that  he doesn't keep  injury records  in his                                                               
office but he does keep fire  records.  From 1997-2000, there was                                                               
a total  of 88  responses from  fire companies  to fires  of some                                                               
sort, with a total dollar  loss of approximately $10,000.  That's                                                               
not a large issue compared to other  fires, he said, but it has a                                                               
potential of being larger.  There  were 63 tree, brush, and grass                                                               
fires, and that certainly has  the potential of growing larger in                                                               
certain areas of the state.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  POWELL pointed  out that  these figures  do not  include the                                                               
responses  of the  Department of  Natural Resources,  Division of                                                               
Forestry.   It  keeps  its  own statistics.    However, it  would                                                               
include  those if  a fire  department responded  first.   He just                                                               
collects fire department information, he noted.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. POWELL  explained that he'd  left 1996 out because  there was                                                               
the large Miller's Reach fire in  1996.  There was some suspicion                                                               
that  fireworks caused  that although  that was  not conclusively                                                               
shown.    If  that  fire  was  included,  it  would  add  another                                                               
$5 million item.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1146                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE  asked if there  were other laws  or statutes                                                               
governing manmade  fires and the  penalties attendant  with those                                                               
regulations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  POWELL answered  that the  Department  of Natural  Resources                                                               
does have regulations regarding man-caused fires.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JAMES  asked if the  intent of the  legislation is                                                               
to just prohibit  the use of these kinds of  fireworks or to also                                                               
prohibit the ownership or purchase of them.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. POWELL  said he believes it  is to prevent the  sale and use.                                                               
The bottle  rockets are  prohibited year-round  and would  not be                                                               
allowed  to be  sold.    The aerial  rockets  would be  permitted                                                               
during the winter months.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1345                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT  HALL, Owner,  Gorilla  Fireworks,  expressed support  for                                                               
HB 487.   He has worked with  the fire marshal and  thinks in the                                                               
long term  it will  be the  best for  the fireworks  industry, he                                                               
told members.  It is modeled  on what has happened in North Pole,                                                               
which prohibits bottle rockets year-round  and prohibits the sale                                                               
of rockets  in the summer months.   North Pole has  had very good                                                               
results,  he said.   This  is  a proactive  thing.   There is  no                                                               
emergency  or  crisis  being faced,  but  the  [Municipality]  of                                                               
Anchorage has expressed concern about  the spruce bark beetle and                                                               
the fire in the Hillside area.   This would bring all the vendors                                                               
under  the same  rules.    It will  give  some  stability to  the                                                               
industry.  If this bill doesn't make  it, he said he will work on                                                               
a cooperative arrangement until a bill gets through.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1463                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOEL  ELROD,  North  Star Fireworks,  Glennallen,  testified  via                                                               
teleconference.   He  stated that  the vendors  can do  a lot  to                                                               
prevent  the misuse  of  fireworks.   There  is  a  law now  that                                                               
restricts people  under the age  of 18 in Alaska  from purchasing                                                               
fireworks.   He  will  not market  fireworks  to anyone  underage                                                               
without parental  consent, he said, and  that helps.  In  1996 he                                                               
was in  Nenana marketing fireworks  and there  was a ban,  and it                                                               
worked because it reduced the sales.   When there is extreme fire                                                               
danger,  public  announcements   will  effectively  help  prevent                                                               
fires.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. ELROD wondered if HB 487  passes, whether it would cause some                                                               
people to be unemployed during  the summer.  If certain fireworks                                                               
are  restricted, the  sales would  be so  low that  the fireworks                                                               
stands would  not be  able to  be open during  the summer  and he                                                               
would be  out of a  job.  It  could be  a $1 million  business in                                                               
Alaska, he suggested, although he  had no statistics to back that                                                               
up.  People may be unemployed because of the bill.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. ELROD commented  that consumer education can help  a lot, and                                                               
consideration ought to  be given to the problem  of alcohol abuse                                                               
and  the  misuse of  fireworks.    He  tries  not to  market  his                                                               
fireworks to someone who is intoxicated, he stated.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1632                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JEREMY BESHAW testified  via teleconference.  He  referred to the                                                               
spruce bark beetle and stated  that any firefighter knows that if                                                               
the fuel  is removed, there won't  be a fire.   He suggested that                                                               
the deadwood  trees be eliminated.   A firebreak was  put through                                                               
in Glennallen,  he noted,  but it  has not  been maintained.   He                                                               
agreed with Mr. Elrod that HB 487  would put the small guy out of                                                               
business.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1700                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL announced  HB 487 will be held over  until the next                                                               
meeting.                                                                                                                        

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